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Don Mills Diva

I think women end up being the pigs waaay more often than men - I wish it weren't true but it has been my experience. I work full time and have a husband who is off for months at a stretch and I can still count on two hands the number of times he has gotten up with our son in 2.5 years - it makes me sad...

kgirl

I had not heard the expression before Grey's as well, so it must be a big rock.

I think there are dads out there that are barely chickens, and there are those that go for it whole hog (waka waka). If it doesn't seem to come natural to dad, that's understandable (hey, it doesn't always come natural to mom), but I have seen that much of it has to do with what the other parent will put up with. The women that I know who complain about their husbands don't really ask for more than what they're (not) getting. It's gotta be a team effort.

Must end by saying that my babydaddy rocks, and I think he was just made that way.

kittenpie

LOL at kgirl!

Misterpie was bacon from the get-go, right in the hospital, when I was recovering from the C, he would walk the halls with her, seeing how much the crying was making me edgy. He'd walk with her while I pumped so I wasn't so stressed. Because I was pumping, he took some feedings so I could get some sleep. I never would have made it with a less committed guy, but then, I wouldn't have made a baby with a guy that I knew wouldn't step up, either.

I think there is also this dynamic in some families - that the woman is so used to doing it her way, teh "right" way, that she steps in and corrects and takes over until the husband backs off. I don't think women even know they are doing it, but I've definitely seen it. So we also need to be more accepting of the fact that parents can do things differently, and it's okay.

Beck

I'm a chicken in EVERY area of my life, except with my kids. With them, some sort of unexpected mammallian thing kicked in and I am utterly committed.
Everyone else gets eggs.

Erin

I think some things will never change and it mostly comes down to personality types. What has changed is that popular culture has adjusted itself to allow men, sometimes even encourage them, to be pigs. Wait A Minute! That sounds bad. Didn't they used to be pigs? Oh, ya, that's right, pigs of a different nature. As it is in our house we do a sliding scale of chicken to pig, trying to support each other along the way. One needs to remember that deep down inside that farm animal of a parent there is an individual spore to nurture as well. It's getting better, I think, in my own home and the north American culture. Except all the animals need to band togeher and just turn the cell phones off a little more often.

Backpacking Dad

Oink oink, baby.

My wife gets to be a pig when she gets home. I don't let her chicken out.

AlphaPigMa

When our oldest was born my husband was at home with us every day for 2 months (stoopid downsizing of job) so he was totally committed. When the second came along we bottle fed and traded night duty back and forth. So yeah, we are both pigs.

My pet peeve is women who force their husbands to be chickens. Like my friend who declared her husband was never allowed to change a diaper because he couldn't do it The Right Way. Yeah, because mechanical engineers are totally fuddled by those velcro closures on the pampers. Yeesh.

Cara

I had never heard of this before but found it very interesting and true. My husband took off 2 weeks after I had a repeat C-section to "help me out" and spent the whole time doing major home improvement projects. He was involved but not committed to helping me out.

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